Taking my 2 Uncles up to fish Chippawa Bay/Creek next week. Said never again after last yr, it's like baby sitting 2-3 yr olds. My cousin is going and we will have 2 boats so it should be easier. 1 is 76, other is 72 and they are both worm guys with 100lb test line and bobbers that would float a semi. But they took me when I was a snot nosed kid so it is payback time. I usually out fish them 20-1 and I'm not that good. Will try to give a report with pics when we get back.