but I seen a show couple days ago G-3 sportsman I think, I'm old so don't remember much.. any way the wind is blowing here,,,, wait, cat fishing i was talking about,,,, they was catching big ole cats right by the arch,,, not mickie'D the gateway one..... drifting cut carp,(silver asian) he said,,, they was haulling in some big fish,,,, any of you easterners do any of that on the Mississippi .... sure looked fun, and a little scarry... they was not in a great big ole boat either.... just wondering