mike that was the original burn in, no meat on the grill, just fired it up and played with it for a few days, kept the temp at 250 with no problem, got plenty of hickory and apple cut and drying, I think you told me about the Q Joint earilie, anyway been reading a lot but figure on hands would be best, first ribs and butt were perfect, them ribs came out like dammmmmmmmmmn good. thanks for the tips.

