I put it at Greaser about 9:30. It was cold and windy. I caught my fish in 10-12' on a chartreuse roadrunner trolling. Thanks again Beagle. I only managed 2 keepers but I think if I would have gotten there earlier and found a pattern faster I'd come home with a few more. Water temp was about 65. There were probably 10 more boats out there but I only saw 1 other boat catch a couple small ones minnow fishing tied up to trees. When the wind laid and the sun came out they sure quit. I'll take some over none any day. Thanks again beagle for your help!