Been doing research for 6 or 7 years and i could show you some things that will make you go hummmmmmm. There's ALOT more people who have seen these things or believe than you'd ever believe. Most don;t have the thick skin I do LOL Heck, I have to having WB as a bud hehe Yeh WB, I went off that deep end after that one Roared at me 2 years ago. He was about 25-30 feet from me. So loud that it rattled my chest