John, your stirring the minner vat!! [emoji476]
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John, your stirring the minner vat!! [emoji476]
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Baitshops are like any other business, it supply and demand. I've had to pay as much as $22.00 per lb at a remote place on the Ten-Tom. 'Course that didn't happen but once. You know the motto "screw me once...shame on you, screw me twice....shame on me." I stopped at Lakeway and bought minnows last Sunday but I Will definitely try the new place this weekend. Most bait shops know and understand minners are just a draw. You make your money on the other stuff.
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How much are they at Collins bait shop?
Figured you could tell us since this thread has leaned more towards the bashing of one shop in particular. I remember 3 shops from my youth (30 plus years ago) in Grenada.. Collins, Lakeway and the Greendoor. Two of these remain to this day the other is a restaurant now. Funny how we throw out the old in favor of the new so quickly now days. If minners cost more than usual then I'm sure there's a reason for it. I ain't bought a minner in over 4 months myself. Everyone has choices on where to buy, seems like there will be another one to choose from now.
I understand a good count/amount for our money, and agree it's all the other stuff that the shops make their money.
Here we are fussing over prices of live bait, but majority don't blink an eye at dropping $4 to $5 on a single crankbait, and buy multiples at a time.
Food for thought......
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Collins is more of a beer joint/hangout than a bait shop. It is NOT a viable source for bait. 700-1100 is his opening hours. I don't think he's been open a single trip to the lake this year for me. And that's s good many trips... not a sole around the mornings of crappie master tournament this spring. Lol
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Our m9nnows vary from 1.20 to 3.00 a dozen. But they are smaller
Just my opinion, I don't think any bait shop should sale there minnows at break even just to try to make there money on something else in the store. I like to buy minnows as cheap as anyone but i also want that person to be satisfied with what there charging so they will hopefully have minnows anytime I need them once you can't buy them close you will realize who's fault it is that no one sales them. We travel to Al pretty often in the late winter and it's like pulling teeth to find minnows from Birmingham to Pratville we have driven 25 miles one way to get 1lb of minnows break that cost out per lb. and about every fisherman will do it once he hooks to that boat. But let that local retailer charge 2.75 a dozen and where all screaming, even myself . Lol
The problem in rural Alabama there is not enough traffic to support a Baitshop. We had three go under the last few years. I never complain on price because of this. Only hrs do I fuss
Same here, the successful ones have to have something else going on. They closed the one across the river this summer, Jeffery's I think was the name of it. If they provided a service such as being there early and having bait where I can be on the water by daylight I'm not likely to gripe about the price no matter what it is. But waiting on someone to open, then feeling like you got skint don't work real good for me.
I think part of the unhappiness with lakeway is they went from a good count at an affordable price to a deficient count at a high price.
It's more than double... I know for a fact it's more than double. Everyone needs to make money. I expect everyone I buy from to make money.... just not Rip me a new one every trip in the door.
They've gotten to dipping single minnows out to make sure you don't get more than one pound... but they don't account for the water that they dipped up and ran off of the net into that weigh bucket. It's ridiculous.
She did that the other day, then I had 2 dead ones in my bucket.... I dipped them out and made her get me two more live ones. If they want to micro manage, I guess I will too. [emoji849]
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Back to the subject at hand.... I'm excited to try the new bait shop! Competition in the market is a GOOD thing. I like options...
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Yeah, I know the wholesale prices too and won't broadcast them here but they make good money on bait, even when they was 1.50 a dozen they were making good money. I do not have to buy from them, have other sources. Looking forward to the new shop, at least he can talk fishing with you too. He knows something about the lake too, don't get much of that down the road.
$1.85 a dozen, waiting on a scale to be able to sell by the pound.
I love to go in a bait shop buy 5 dozen of minnows and get to the lake and look in and see about 8 dozen. When I go into a bait shop and buy 5 dozen and get to the lake and pop that top and see about 64 minnows I think dang they didn't give me very many extra ones then I start to thinking I only ask for and paid for 5 dozen so that's all I am owed.....I still like the 8 dozen.
I'm lucky to have one of the largest and oldest minnow farms in the US about 45 minutes from me. #8's are $3.75 per pound, #12's are $5.00 per pound. A few weeks ago I picked up minnows and was ready to pay. The price was significantly cheaper than what I had been paying. I mentioned the difference in prices to the owner, they had quoted me wholesale prices and not retail. I gladly payed the retail price, point being wholesale prices are cheaper. These minnows are also graded out right not the crap that you get most of the time where you have #4's to maybe a few #8's.
I don't mind paying the prices at Grenada because it takes money to get them from Arkansas to Mississippi. My complaint is quality of the minnows. If I'm paying for medium or #8 minnows I want number #8 minnows not 3/4 a pound of 4's and 6's and a 1/4 pound of 8's. If I owned a bait shop I think I would get set up and haul my own minnows. You would have better control on pricing and quality of product.
I hope the new bait shop is successful, we have drove to Gore Springs for minnows many times because the go to bait shop in Grenada only orders minnows when they run out rather than ahead of time. Minnows are cheaper at Gore Springs, nice folks to do business with but still the variance in size because they come from the same source.
Last time I was in Lakeway, I asked for 8 dz minnows. She said they can't sell them by the dozen if it's more than four dozen, and I will have to buy them by the pound. I thought that was utterly ridiculous, and told her to give me a pound. When I got home, I decided to count them just for curiosity....and found out that I had two dozen less than the 8 dozen I wanted. What upset me was I paid more for the pound than I would have for the 8 dz.....and got less minnows.
Yep, it's gone down big time
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Ask for 4 dozen............twice
Good Luck to the new bait shop Rip-N-Lips !!
I've been there before and the best way I can describe owning a bait shop is it"s a lot like farming if the weather and conditions (lake level) aren't perfect it can be very difficult to make a profit !!
If ya lose two minners per short fish, at 4 bucks a dozen, that's about .65 per bite. Add that up if ya catch 20-30 shorts a day. Ya can't put minners back in your tackle box either. Plus ya don't lose many cranks compared to minners. [emoji23][emoji476][emoji476]
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You are!!! Like Jerry's kids!!! LMBO
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Bill, if you would tighten up and focus, you could decrease your cost per bite while increasing your catch rate through effective management and skill set training. Also, with proper minner care you can maximize your onset of investment and gain a better ROI. Thus, all of these techniques will drive a better and more positive fishing experience resulting in less stress, and better financial health.
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I was trying to be funny, and apparently I used a wrong word that threw everybody off track.
Tighten up was meant as quit playing around, stay off the phone, don't talk so much.....that kinda thing. We know that Bill is very dedicated to his fishing.
The rest of it was just BS playing off of Bill's comment about the cost of minners per bite.
Didn't mean any harm, embarrass or put Bill down in anyway, shape or form.
If I was referring to Bill's waistline to tighten up, I would be the pot calling the kettle black!
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