Ok so that’s said about eating crow, I stopped and got minnows today on my livescoping trip, stopped at the first spot dropped a slip cork rig down and it went down fast, caught my first crappie on a minnow while livescoping. Then I pitched that next minnow for hours, without a bite. Then I grabbed my jig and started catching the fire out them, in about 2 hour had a limit with the jigs. So I will have to agree with most of you fellows on here about minnows while livescoping, lots easier also. So when it time for old dano to eat some crow I am man enough to admit it.. Sometimes the learning curve, I have got to try it myself. Thanks guys.