All he little fish must have run the medium fish I was catching off because I could not keep a shiner on the hook for 1 minuet without getting a bite but when i would set the hook NOTHING most time the minnows eyes would be gone I'm thinking what ever is down there dont want my minnows to see it coming well I did manage to bring home 3 fish that was keepers fished from 5am till noon in 18 fow 14 feet deep I lost one fish at the boat and like always it was the biggest one of the morning