Thank you bco I had a great time. Bco was kind enough to take me out yesterday I learned a lot from him. I feel like I have a better handle on things now. Water muddy 66degree found them in 25-30 feet 8- 15 feet down we got a late start but bco was still able to find fish. It was a great trip and met a new friend.lot of small fish I lost count brought home 6 very nice fish and caught my biggest crappie to date 13 1/4”.now I get to use that new electric Rapala .