With the cool temps. last week I couldn't stand it any longer and had to throw a dog in the timber. My older dog(2+) treed 7 times and I got 3 down, real happy considering the leaf cover. My pup got his first tree this morning, then 10 minutes later ran a deer out of the country......he's a trashy rascal(tritronics has the answer). Love running the dogs on squirrel and may give them a shot on coon. Company is always welcome, if ya don't mind covering some ground.