Okay, I've been lerking around here...alot. Reading, picking up things here and there. Looking at my first vise. I have found a "danvise" rotary on ebay and was wondering if that would be good to start with? And what is a tying station? I have not seen that anywhere. What are some other brands for less than 100 that would be good to get?? After reading everything I am going to get a rotary and ceriamic bobbins. I have seen kits and such but most come with on a few things that you guys recommend...is it better to just piece it together as you go?? Thanks guys!