Good Morning I'm trying to tie on 1/64,1/32,1/24oz. heads with all having a #8 gold hook. I do this to try and have the best of both world's in catching gills and crappies. Its not that I'm not catching enough fish on them as they do a very good job on bite to hook up percentages. No complaints there at all. BUT I need to tie a very short collar just back of the head to hold the Kiptail. This allows me to slide up under the skirt a one inch Gulp Alive minnow for attraction and scent. Trying to get a good looking collar that every jig looks the same is my problem. I start out pinching down on the KT and make 3 easy rounds of thread and then tighten down to finish without moving my finger tips sometimes they come out great looking but the next one looks really bad as the collar is way to long????? Any help our thoughts on this tying problem would be appr..I've put down SH HARD AS NAILS thinking this would help but no go there either. Maybe I just need more practice. HA HA Sorry for being so long winded. Thanks ahead of time and every one have a great fall season!!! STEVE