Does anyone know of a decent starter vise under 40.00? So far all the ones I have seen have horrible reviews. Biggest complaint is that they do not hold the hook. I bought a vise for around 20.00 to try it out and it is totally useless, I use it as bobbin rest for my tying vise. At least it has a pedestal so I can move it. If we get into the 40.00 dollar price range there are several that will do a decent job. I thought we should have a sticky on a beginner vise but do you feel that 40.00 is steep for a first time user? I do realize that in this economy that may be hard for some to come up with that much money.