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    how well does powder paint stay on jigheads without baking them?i had a problem a guy said the paint was coming off and the jigs only went through the mail.i know the guys telling the truth so no problem there.i talked to the lady at the post office and she said if they ran it threw the seperating machine it could have done it because its metal to metal and it smashes envelope size packages pretty hard. problem there is i wrote hand cancel on the package but she said they dont catch them all.what i do is heat it up with a grill lighter for 5 to 8 seconds depending on size then swish around in the pro tec powder paint then dip in water to cool

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    the paint stays on ok and i did that when i first started painting jigs and the paint wears off after a while so i ended up investing in a toaster oven and once u bake the jigs the powder paint sets up like an epoxy and its really solid after that

    look around at a garage sale and find a little toaster oven and bake the paint on they will last forever its well worth it i found a toaster oven at a yard sale for $5.00 and been using it ever since
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    So if you bake them after you paint them....how long do you bake them and at work temp? I'm doin 1/100, 1/80, 1/64, 1/32 mainly I'm personally afraid that if I bake them the lead will melt off the jig heads then I will have wasted paint and lead....
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    When I bake them I set the oven for 15 min at 325 degrees. I do not always bake them though. The powder stays on pretty good. I lose a few jigs so maybe if I didn't they might show signs of chipping.

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    I don't bake them either. After heating the head with a heat gun, then swishing it throught the powder paint, tap off excess, then hold it in front of the heat gun for a few seconds and hang up to dry overnight (although you can tie on them almost instantly when they are cool.
    I've never had a jig chip or loose paint either fishing them or thru the mail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 78mudbug View Post
    how well does powder paint stay on jigheads without baking them?i had a problem a guy said the paint was coming off and the jigs only went through the mail.i know the guys telling the truth so no problem there.i talked to the lady at the post office and she said if they ran it threw the seperating machine it could have done it because its metal to metal and it smashes envelope size packages pretty hard. problem there is i wrote hand cancel on the package but she said they dont catch them all.what i do is heat it up with a grill lighter for 5 to 8 seconds depending on size then swish around in the pro tec powder paint then dip in water to cool
    I have sent jigs in the mail, and I've had some report that they got them with the paint off completely down to the bare lead. I bake mine and I know it doesn't come off that easily. It is because they send the bulky package through a machine and it gets stuck and damages the jigs. It's the carelessness of the P.O. BTW why do you put your jigs in the water to cool?

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    So if you bake them after you paint them....how long do you bake them and at work temp? I'm doin 1/100, 1/80, 1/64, 1/32 mainly I'm personally afraid that if I bake them the lead will melt off the jig heads then I will have wasted paint and lead....
    I bake mine the same as Oldwun. If you're afraid they will melt, just take a half dozen bad ones that are painted and bake them. See what happens. Naturally I wouldn't do 100 jigs, I think you will be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACSooner80 View Post
    So if you bake them after you paint them....how long do you bake them and at work temp? I'm doin 1/100, 1/80, 1/64, 1/32 mainly I'm personally afraid that if I bake them the lead will melt off the jig heads then I will have wasted paint and lead....
    Pure lead melts at 600*F (higher if it's hard lead)... powder paint flashes at 350*F, your lead will not melt at 350*F or even 400*.

    A toaster oven is much better for painting and curing. Heat your raw jigs to 350-375*F in a toaster oven, you can heat many at the same time (I do 10 at a time, but you can do more). Remove them 1 at a time and swish in the paint and return them back to the oven to finish flashing the paint. After the paint has flashed on all of them, remove them and let them cool, then return the painted jigs to the oven and bake at 350* for 15-20 min. Your paint will be much stronger.

    Painted and uncured jigs are pretty fragile, just dropping one on the floor will chip off the paint. Curing them really toughens them up!

    It doesn't surprise me at all that your paint chipped off in the mail, and even if it hadn't it would've/will chip off when your customer fishes with them and he won't be happy or satisfied and probably won't buy anymore from you.

    You can buy a brand new toaster oven for 20-30$ at Wal-Mart, well worth the money!
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    Here's where you can find the curing temps and times.

    http://www.crappie.com/crappie/jig-t...emps-time.html

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    thanks guys for helping me out with this strange situation.looks like i will start baking them

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    If you're not going to cure the powder paint why even bother doing it!!!!!

    If you're taking the time to powder paint you do have to clean up and you can be baking your heads while you do the cleaning. Even small jigs won't melt while curing.

    If you're using a toaster oven GET AN OVEN THERMOMETER!!!!!! There's been many threads on this site about the temps some of them get to when set at 350 degrees.

    If you're worried about dripping you can use tin foil on the bottom of the oven or here's how I do mine. The aluminum pans I punch holes around the edge and as I powder paint the head it gets hung in one of the holes.

    After the three small trays are loaded up they go on the cookie sheet (They're mine and the only thing they get used for), and into the oven for 15 minutes at 350 degrees. Any drips are contained in the aluminum pans.



    If you need any more info let us know and we'll help you out.

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