Didn't get to fish yesterday Pat. We had to redeem ourselves at Tuscola yesterday from the butt kicking we got Friday on the football field. (Your going to have those days) We won the Tuscola envite with our cross country team. It was a close race but the Rams pulled it off in the end. As far as the fishing goes it may change day by day. But for us it was the jig out fishing the minnows. We had our limits by 9:00 Am. some days and one day we had it by 8:15 am. I don't know were you buy your minnows at but by the time I mess with getting them and getting them in the boat in both minnow buckets we could be done. Maybe you need to look somewhere the fish might hit a jig better.. just saying. The fall bite is on!!