Deathb4disco, you are a bundle of info. I spoke to Henry Cowen and he is a teriffic person. Gave me more info than I could possibly absorbe at one time. He is the man when fly fishing for stripers. He sent me some pics of a trip he had last year on Lanier during the snow storm. The fish were stacked up like cord wood and the had some large fish. I dont know how to get the email over to this page, but will try. Thanks again for the info. Fish hawk bait in Atlanta has a great selection of flies. Got a some comming.