Cant let you ole retired coots get all the reports in during a contest. Went after work for a quick trip to a local water hole. I know for certain it had a fish kill this summer in the heat but figured wth. Really shallow clear water with real flat bottom. No brush or wood just some over hanging bushes. Does have a small water fall steep ledges and rocky bottom. Tried tubes and BGBS to no avail. But got out for a few minutes. Will post pic of water hole later, gotta go cook some vittles.