I use it the same way. My only question is, when zoomed all the way in how many feet is it per square?Quote:
Originally Posted by PanMan_VA
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I use it the same way. My only question is, when zoomed all the way in how many feet is it per square?Quote:
Originally Posted by PanMan_VA
It looks like it is 40' or 50'. I am estimating off the length of the 20' scale marker.Quote:
Originally Posted by TapOut64
You know, I've been wondering about that, if the super-close zoom
ranges we've been given are exaggerating the herky-jerky deal.
I know my old Lowrance, about 528 feet square is as close as it'll zoom in -
I know some of us have a problem with the redraw interval, but not wanting
to get into all that. It sounds reasonable to me that zoomed way in,
at a given speed, the cursor is gonna jump further each time it updates.
When I'm close enough to my object of interest to be zoomed in all the way, I'm moving very slow. The display really doesn't jump that much. It is a little jerky at high zoom when moving faster due to the slow update interval.Quote:
Originally Posted by J White
I will try not using the waypoint method and see if I can get any closer. Does anyone else use a GPS that has the arrow that guides you and lets you know if your off track like my Garmin 378. I think I will post a picture of my guidance screen on my Garmin 378.
This is a screen that I use for precise guidance to my spot. The arrow doesn't jump around like crazy and if gives the number of feet to spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishordie
Does the Hummingbird 797 have a simple screen like this? The boat and arrow isn't cutting it for me and will tell me I'm at my spot while the Garmin will show I have another 20 feet to go before being over my spot.
Any help would be appreciated. :rolleyes:
I have something similar on my 27C for navigating to a waypoint. I tried using it once but didn't like it. With that poor experience in mind, I have never tried using the 997's navigation function which is where folks are having issues.
By navigation function, I take it you mean some of the stuff like
"go to" a waypoint? I haven't tried using any of that stuff, just steering
towards a point on the screen. Have went back to my old ways,
I always keep it set North up - if I want to go to something at say, 3 o'clock
on the screen, I look at the shore and pick out something to the East, and
go that way, glancing back and forth at the screen watching my progress
towards it. I completely ignore which way the little boat is pointing, and I've
turned off the course projection line. Works pretty fair this way, as long as
I stay slow enough to stay behind the lag time. Again, I'm way tired of the
drama, so I'm beyond argueing the "why" of this - but I did
take some advice off the Yahoo SI group and set my unit to dd.ddddd and
it does seem to react a little more smoothly for me this way.
I'd really like to see them add some more Lowrance-like features like seperate
icons, and the ability to delete them by type... or for the unit to stay defaulted to, for example, the fish symbol instead of always popping the blue dot and having to edit it - but I don't like what happens
when I try to talk to these folks, so I'm "out" on trying to work with them.
I'll use what they put out, or not, and when/if something better comes
along, I'm all over it ;)
dd.ddddd,
I remember the discussion. My reasoning is that all or most gps default to dd.mm.mmm. If dd.ddddd format was the better of the two, then I believe it would be the default.
I have mine set on dd.ddddd, but didn't help any with the trolling grid situation. It just needs to refresh more.
Next time you up, we will try this out again. I keep on trying.
DOP is the big factor, along with how the unit math handles the NMEA0183 position sentence. This is where the math fault I keep on harping about shows up. They round up/down numbers.
Each manufacturer have their own method of reporting precision so to make their product look smarter than their competitors.
Any selected format will get you to the same point on the map.:)
I talked to Trimble. Tech support fellow said with the handheld consumer units, it is a insignificant setting, just a user preference....
I DON'T KNOW.
Yes after that dd.ddddd discussion I did try it but found no real difference/ help so went back default setting. I find it so much nicer to just use a Garmin unit for going to my waypoints, zip you are there without fighting the HB Hogwash. Garmin updates once evey second which I thought 997 is also supposed to do, but I guess 997 chokes on the info... :rolleyes:
I'm new to the HB 797 but not new to GPS systems. I have no problem going to a spot with my Garmin and will still have to pack it along every trip since I can't troll around for fifteen minutes trying to find my spot with the 797. If you have to search instead of fish before you know it the day is gone.:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by jaxsprat
LOL
I was just reading back through this thread and wanted to comment. The beauty of a side imaging unit with gps is that when you see some structure, let's just say 70' to the left of your boat, you can stop the screen and cursor over to the structure and create a waypoint. You can now navigate to that structure at whatever point in time you so choose. Without gps you would have to guess as to where 70' from your boat is and when you passed by it. I would imagine it would take you some time to find this structure. I have spotted structure 150' from my boat (with Side Imaging) and without creating a waypoint with the gps feature, it would take me forever to find it. My Garmin handheld is much more accurate then HB's gps so for the time being I use both. Sometimes my 997's gps puts me right on, other times I'm 40' off. I certainly do understand anyone that decides to wait to purchase a unit until HB fixes the gps problem but the gps feature is a must to get the most out of this product.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaunc
A lot of folks will just cruise around for an hour or so marking structure with waypoints and come back to fish them another day. You can go for miles doing nothing but creating waypoints. It really is a neat unit, here's hoping they iron out the gps issues.
My question is:
Does the unit seem to work better at a higher rate of speed, say over 5 mph?
My 787c2i is on the front of my boat and at very slow trolling speeds it's very difficult to stay on the contour of a ledge, or a series of brushpiles by looking at the GPS. I drop markers when it is fessible but marking the whole ledge is not functional way to spend my day. Before you say, split the screen and watch the water depth, I already do. The problem is, if you start to drift off the ledge to the flat side you can be 500 yds. from the ledge because the water is the same depth once you are on top.
Someone made a comment that they don't need the GPS function to get them to thier fishing spot. Well, when you are two miles from the nearest bank it certainly helps to have a guide. No way your going to find that stuff unless you go back to the ole' traingulation method.
These units were touted as being better "for the fishermen". You assume the more money you spend the less time your gonna waste looking for stuff that you have either dropped or was there already. That I think was/is the draw for most fisheremen. They thought that these unit were going to give them great pics. of underwater structure AND lead them back to those spots with minimun time loss.
If you're retired and can spend 18 days out of the month on the water, then time may not be your top priority. It doesn't matter if it takes you 15 minutes to find your spot. Hey, if I don't find it today...well, there's always tomm. Me, I don't have that kind of time and won't for the next, oh, 20 years.
Another thing I read on this thread was someone saying that, "it's not bad enough for you to take off your boat". I guess for some people, they have the economic means to change out units whenever they like. I would assume that most of us guys on here have saved up our money to buy units that range from $800-3,000.00. I'm not interested in pulling it out at my expense(time) and buying another unit and installing. I makes no sense. I have an $800.00 machine that should get the job done.
And just let me say this. I am not typically one that walks around all day displaying a negative and complaining attitude. Life is too short for that kind of nonsense. I will say though that if we, as a people, continue to just "take in on the chin" and say you're right, I should be happy no matter what I was told, then we my friends are in a serious state of affairs. If you don't think that kind of thinking is dangerous just look at the two people that we have running for president. Out of all the people in the U.S., this is the best we could do. We will settle for anything.
I am confident that HB will get it right and until then I will just wait or buy me a cheap Garmin handheld.
It ain't all bad...I could have no boat at all! :D
The Hound
PanMan...thanks for this tip. I will try it out once I get back on the water. How high do you zoom?Quote:
I just put the boat icon over the waypoint icon on the GPS display at a high zoom level.
The Hound
All the way or close to it. I continue to increase the zoom to just keep the waypoint on the screen until I arrive. Large objects don't need maximum zoom to find on the SONAR. Small ones do. I also move in very slowly to keep the slow refresh rate from causing problems. Keep the side scan running at a narrow range as well. If you miss your target a little left or right, throw a marker out to the side about the distance the object is from the boat when you see it on the SONAR. It only takes a minute or two to circle the marker and find the target.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrappieHound
Its not perfect but it will work until a firmware update comes out that corrects the issue.
Thanks...that sounds like a quick fix until HB saves the "day". LOL!
The Hound
You sure hit the target bullseye dead center on with your post, I agree fully could not of said it any better --a perfect post.Quote:
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