What hand injector do you use

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11-28-2011, 01:42 PM
snake River

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Originally Posted by shipahoy41

This is a wonderful thread. Thank you for the information Paul, Cf, Bob and others. It is so helpful for a beginner like me to read threads like this. Does anyone have any tips on using hand held injectors they wish to post here.

make sure you wear gloves and a long sleeve shirt or sweater also when you are using the injector if you preheated by running the rod back and forth make sure that you have the and of it on the bottom of your container or you will shoot the and of your tip off when you get through shooting with the injector make sure that you have a hold of the and with your gloves to shoot your excess plastic back into your container when it cools off a little bit first the rod to first the tip out to clean you will get the hang of it they usually do not tell you this in the videos I'm sure that there are plenty of videos out there that will tell you the proper ways of cleaning your injector I would go through and see what you can find there are quite a few good ones out there .
11-28-2011, 05:36 PM
becks

Ok I've been looking around alot today on the internet and have seen the blending blocks and dual injectors. Do you guys think it may be better to just bite the bullet and go ahead and buy on of these set ups? Thanks guys
11-29-2011, 11:50 AM
WhiteMeat

I have only used catheter tip syringes, as that's what I've been taught with and what my 'teacher' uses. But, we also ALWAYS wear sleeves, gloves, and safety glasses and his molds are all single cavity. If you're shooting a whole bunch or have big molds I would imagine an injector is a requirement. But, we just shoot one bait at a time and 'clean' the syringe between each shot. We're not small manufacturers looking to shoot a bunch of baits fast like most of the guys around here. If you're a beginner and just making a couple bags here and there for self use I think it's good enough.

I will say that when the plastic first comes out of the microwave and is very hot it can soften, or even melt, the syringe tip if you don't let the plastic cool a little, and you have to be real careful with the amount of pressure you apply or the syringe tip can get deformed. If/when you get deformation it's best to trim things even again or that's when you get streams shooting out the side = DANGEROUS! I've had syringes that I trashed in 30 minutes and some that have lasted for weeks, you just have to go into it knowing they're disposable (last time I picked some up I bought a dozen...Thumbs Up).

I may have to look into the suggested veterinary syringes though, if they don't melt at all that could be better than what I've been using...
11-29-2011, 12:00 PM
snake River

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Originally Posted by WhiteMeat

I have only used catheter tip syringes, as that's what I've been taught with and what my 'teacher' uses. But, we also ALWAYS wear sleeves, gloves, and safety glasses and his molds are all single cavity. If you're shooting a whole bunch or have big molds I would imagine an injector is a requirement. But, we just shoot one bait at a time and 'clean' the syringe between each shot. We're not small manufacturers looking to shoot a bunch of baits fast like most of the guys around here. If you're a beginner and just making a couple bags here and there for self use I think it's good enough.

I will say that when the plastic first comes out of the microwave and is very hot it can soften, or even melt, the syringe tip if you don't let the plastic cool a little, and you have to be real careful with the amount of pressure you apply or the syringe tip can get deformed. If/when you get deformation it's best to trim things even again or that's when you get streams shooting out the side = DANGEROUS! I've had syringes that I trashed in 30 minutes and some that have lasted for weeks, you just have to go into it knowing they're disposable (last time I picked some up I bought a dozen...Thumbs Up).

I may have to look into the suggested veterinary syringes though, if they don't melt at all that could be better than what I've been using...

this is very good information thank you.
11-30-2011, 12:42 AM
Old & Slow

I have both the Caney Creek Molds 4 oz. injector and a Basstackle Twinjector ( dual 3 oz. ) The basstackle twinjector injector cylinder walls are much thicker. This is good and bad. They will stay warmer longer; but unless you pre heat them some; the Basstackle injectors pull heat from the plastic very quickly with the first injection. The CCM injectors will inject "cold" ( no preheating ). Unless I am injecting laminates; I almost always grab the CCM injector. I would not think of injecting laminates with anything other than the Basstackle Twinjector unit. I believe the Jacobs injector and Bears Baits injectors are both thin walled as well. Caney Creek, Bears Baits, and Basstackle all use a common injector port diameter. Jacobs Baits uses a small port. A Jacobs injector will inject the other makers molds; but the other makers injectors will not inject a Jacobs mold. Basstackle and Jacobs injectors have a "keeper pin" on the head; CCM & Bear's do not.
11-30-2011, 07:32 AM
crappiefarmer

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Originally Posted by Old & Slow

I have both the Caney Creek Molds 4 oz. injector and a Basstackle Twinjector ( dual 3 oz. ) The basstackle twinjector injector cylinder walls are much thicker. This is good and bad. They will stay warmer longer; but unless you pre heat them some; the Basstackle injectors pull heat from the plastic very quickly with the first injection. The CCM injectors will inject "cold" ( no preheating ). Unless I am injecting laminates; I almost always grab the CCM injector. I would not think of injecting laminates with anything other than the Basstackle Twinjector unit. I believe the Jacobs injector and Bears Baits injectors are both thin walled as well. Caney Creek, Bears Baits, and Basstackle all use a common injector port diameter. Jacobs Baits uses a small port. A Jacobs injector will inject the other makers molds; but the other makers injectors will not inject a Jacobs mold. Basstackle and Jacobs injectors have a "keeper pin" on the head; CCM & Bear's do not.

That sounds like a good fair description of them all. Thanks You.CF
11-30-2011, 07:53 AM
becks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old & Slow

I have both the Caney Creek Molds 4 oz. injector and a Basstackle Twinjector ( dual 3 oz. ) The basstackle twinjector injector cylinder walls are much thicker. This is good and bad. They will stay warmer longer; but unless you pre heat them some; the Basstackle injectors pull heat from the plastic very quickly with the first injection. The CCM injectors will inject "cold" ( no preheating ). Unless I am injecting laminates; I almost always grab the CCM injector. I would not think of injecting laminates with anything other than the Basstackle Twinjector unit. I believe the Jacobs injector and Bears Baits injectors are both thin walled as well. Caney Creek, Bears Baits, and Basstackle all use a common injector port diameter. Jacobs Baits uses a small port. A Jacobs injector will inject the other makers molds; but the other makers injectors will not inject a Jacobs mold. Basstackle and Jacobs injectors have a "keeper pin" on the head; CCM & Bear's do not.

Old and slow sounds like you sure know your injectors and molds thank you very much for the detailed info.

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