hot pots for plastisols

thank you guys for all the information we have contacted bear bait and talk to David for quite a while. We will be ordering quite a bit of stuff from him. He has some new products that we will be trying. He is posting some new molds on this site.

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Originally Posted by brushnjigs

Snake river,
sent you a pm. Crappieday is 100% on the money, and you are probably looking at $500 per cavity with the CAD files and CNC cutting. Get with me and I can direct you to the proper people.

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I replied to your PM and thank you

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Originally Posted by crappieday

problem is they have over 100,000 bucks in the equipment and software that they have to pay for and larger bass lure molds sell like hot cakes. that keeps their machines tied up. baits have to be deigned through a cad program, that in it self is big bucks for the program, person that can use it and time. I have a customer that owns a fire arms company that has all the right equipment and then some. He says I can send him a bait that he can scan in with a special scanner and it will put it into a mold.Then its a matter of correct porting.

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does this gentleman make molds for you and thank you for your information

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Originally Posted by bwillaub

I have made at least 20 resin molds over the past couple of months. The baits from every one has produced fish. My baits have outproduced purchased baits by a large measure thus far. I have posted pics on this forum so they and the baits from them can be seen there.

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thank you we are not after one-sided molds or flat molds we definitely want injection.

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Originally Posted by bigfish5

here is a sight that makes molds. he just made me a 6 cavity mold for $65. you might call him. he is a retired gentleman and i think he will do small bait molds.
ace hand molds. i could not get the link to post. but you can google it. he is in lutz florida

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when you get a link please let me know we would appreciate it.

snake, did bear say he would have any new crappie molds? Most of what he has are the basic curly tails and a twitchy minnow. His molds are great, I just wish he would do more types of crappie molds. I understand why he does not though. Did he mention anything in the works for crappie?

I am sure he will get us more molds in the future but right now he is as busy as it gets. I am sure this summer when things slow like they tend to do he will have time to tinker with more stuff. I know I have things I would like to do and to try but it will have to wait till after the spring rush. But I will have a new one in a bout a month. 36 cavities of fun. lol

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Originally Posted by crappieday

I am sure he will get us more molds in the future but right now he is as busy as it gets. I am sure this summer when things slow like they tend to do he will have time to tinker with more stuff. I know I have things I would like to do and to try but it will have to wait till after the spring rush. But I will have a new one in a bout a month. 36 cavities of fun. lol

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you'll have to show us a picture of what that mold is going to put out 36 cavity is a pretty good sized mole. Yes I know that he is very busy I have a meeting with him tomorrow on the phone. We will be trying to work with David as much as I can and like you say it won't be for a while until after the rush bob.

The reason for not wanting to build the molds? It is not profitable for them. If you have a 100k machine along with software that is costing up to 12k per annual licensing fee after the purchase of the software, you need to be building 50k plus orders, not 1000. Its not they dont want to, its turning the cash to pay for everything. Add the utilities, monthly building payment, machine payment,payroll,insurance ect. You are talking some real money. Some can slide you in between large orders if the CAD man is running behind, and he takes his time because he can lock up the CNC in a blink of an eye, if he misses something. This might put things in a little light to see what they are dealing with.

something you need to ask yourself is how much you what to spend, how many baits per hour do you want to produce but be realistic.To say I want to do 1000's and hour is not likely if you dont spend the big money to get automated because the baits are not done after they are injected, they need to be striped and cured for 24 hours before packaging. they may feel done but take a worm for example. If you dont lay it straight after it comes out of the mold it wont be straight when it comes time to put in a bag. Make your you also look at the dangers of injection molding, because you will pay to play so to speak. I wear my gloves but there are times you are going to get burned and 350 degree plastic sticks like napalm and keeps burning.