If you have had success baiting them out how do you do it? I've made bait stations with 4 to 6" PVC with holes drilled in it and a removable top to add the bait. We have tied these in cedar tops at around 16' deep in 18-25FOW. I can't even remember what we baited them with though. I've heard alfalfa, dog food, rabbit pellets. So what do you guys use and have you ever heard of using cotton seed cake?? I've heard you can draw crappie 1st then the cats move in and your crappie move out? I've also heard all you need is brush.