You're making me go waaaaaay back in the archives. Bread, oats, anything like that is gonna fall apart as it sits in the water. Usually just before the fish takes interest and eats it without the hook that just fell out. As a kid on Long Island, I spent a lot of time in the summer trying to catch Carp. Some were large gold carp, or goldfish, that had been released at some point and bred with the locals. 2 and 3 colors weren't uncommon. Dad delivered mail and a pet shop on his route would buy them for $.50 each. Major funds in that day for a kid. Over time I refined the doughball thing to a science. End result, leave all that junk in the store. Buy a half sized package of Pillsbury buttermilk biscuits. Now if you open the pack, they're gonna dry out and they suck to eat. Don't ask How I know that. Although if it's hot enough and you have time and asphalt and a piece of tinfoil, they will cook. Take your pocket knife and punch a small hole ( to start with) in the end of the container. Twist the blade a little and the pressure will push out just a little at a time. Take that and hook it on the point of the hook, then wrap the rest around the shank to point to shank to point and so on, until it has formed a ball. Mush it just a little to set it all together and cast it, weightless, into the area desired. Don't put the rod down cuz lots of stuff has gotten the memo on Pillsbury's. I financed a new rod and reel one summer this way, and no one could figure out how I could cast a doughball. End of lesson, now lets see some fish pictures.