Thread: Barrel Swivel Snaps or Duo Lock Snaps for Cranks When Pulling

Originally Posted by tncrappiebass

Wow, this was a touchy subject I brought up. I have been using the duo loc snaps but my buddy uses the barrel swivel snaps. Neither one of us know which is better and is why I asked the question.

Not really that touchy of a subject.Next time out if you want to try without do it on one side and see how you like it.My opinion is just from what some of the best crankbait pullers there is have told me and I listen.Lots of guys I've fished with though have had there own way and if it works there's nothing wrong with it.For example most don't like running 30lb powerpro braid like i dobecause it don't have any stretch.And I do believe it costs me a fish every now and then but the only reason I run it is because I only loose 2-4 cranks a year and I pull thought steak beds and various pieces of structure.

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Originally Posted by tncrappiebass

Wow, this was a touchy subject I brought up. I have been using the duo loc snaps but my buddy uses the barrel swivel snaps. Neither one of us know which is better and is why I asked the question.

Which is better is.......the one you like the best

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Duo-lock snaps straight to the split ring. No noticeable difference in action using the split ring in my years of trolling. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I would absolutely lose my mind if I were tying directly to the lure without a snap or snap swivel due to changing out colors or lure styles on a regular basis.

Plain Duo-Lock Snaps. Sz #1 on Bandit 100 & 200. Sz #2 on Bandit 300, Arkie 350's and Cadron Creeks Custom Cranks C-55!!!
I clip straight to the lure, do not use the split ring!
Tight Lines - Dave

Originally Posted by DaveB40

Plain Duo-Lock Snaps. Sz #1 on Bandit 100 & 200. Sz #2 on Bandit 300, Arkie 350's and Cadron Creeks Custom Cranks C-55!!!
I clip straight to the lure, do not use the split ring!
Tight Lines - Dave

So your saying you remove the split ring that comes on these lures ? With the combination of the snap and the split ring the lure has the freedom to move anyway it wants to....no restriction to action at all.

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Originally Posted by blueball

I'll drive you some more steaks Mr tom,just send me the coordinates

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Use "tracback", then pick a spot.

I know this isn't a question for spoons, but this will make sense in a minute:

With spoons, there are a few companies that come with split rings attached to the top of the bait (where you connect to your main line). This is to improve action of the bait and allow for minimal interference. DreamWeaver is one company that does this and they have done extensive testing (I'm friends with many of them). Some spoon companies are too cheap to put on the rings or it takes too long. When running salmon boats, we NEVER put a spoon in the water without a split ring on the front. Always added our own.

SOOO, when it comes to cranks... those rings are put on for a reason. Certain baits perform differently with a ring vice without. Unlike a spoon where the ring allows for free movement (no matter the spoon), all cranks are NOT created equal. Cranks come in several shapes sizes and colors and many of them have different connecting platforms. For me, I prefer a Duo Lock for two reasons: One, it aids in being able to remove the bait quickley, Two, it allows for free movement of the crank bait. Allowing it to wobble from side to side, and tip and yawl. IF it comes with a split ring it is there for a reason. This is why I prefer a Duo Lock over a standard snap swivel. Many of the snap swivels have a smaller opening and do not allow for the the bait to wobble as designed.

For years, many people tied a standard fishermans knot directly to a Rapala HOWEVER: the box showed what was called a Rapala Knot (commonly known as a loop knot). This was provided from the manufacturor to the purchaser to SHOW them that the bait performs BEST when not impeaded by tieing direct or using tight snap swivels.

In summary, for things that rotate (IE spoons) I alwasy use a quality ball bearing swivel and split ring to allow for proper movement of the spoon and rotation without line twist. For cranks, they are not designed to rotate, I use a large mouth Duo Lock to allow the bait to move from side to side. No need for a swivel. If they are rotating, it is duo to improper tuning of the bait (most are not tuned out of the box) or issues resulting from improper line application to the reel (allowing for line twist when adding line).

Originally Posted by Hookin'&Cookin'

#3 duolock with a #5 swivel 18 inch up the line. Hook the snap to eye or split ring witch ever the crank come with

Used this setup for many years with a 18-36" fluorocarbon leader. The barrel swivel helps to prevent line twist with the added bonus of helping to collect weeds or algae in the water that would otherwise end up on the lure, thus fouling its action.