Thread: How Guides Do It

I know it's public water and I make my own cover and no I don't care if someone is fishing it but I don't make my living off of my spots like a guide does. Let's be honest most weekend fisherman don't make brush piles the guys that fish for crappie a lot do and no I don't fish a spot just because I see someone fishing there. Not saying that other people don't fish were do I just don't feel right about that. Finding fish is my favorite part of fishing. I fish new spots every time I go. I'm sorry if I made you mad but Ron was trying to help people with where to put you brush piles . I'm glad there are guides on the site most of them have a lot of knowledge and will help you out. Like I said I'm sorry if I made you or anyone mad that was not my intention.

OK, I'll spell it out for those that cannot or will not put themselves in other peoples shoes.

I do not think the first post to the thread starter was that bad after reading what the thread starter wrote. It was a simple response to his post about how to place structure "away from weekend anglers". I thought the original post was not structured toward the ENTIRE fishing community like these forums are supposed to be. I found his post as a suggestion for guides or ways to hide piles from others which in my mind is selfish. That is how I viewed it. I was not "set off", mad or negative toward him but I did point out my opinion. He didn't like it and replied with "right!". Not a good response from a newbie in my opinion. If he is here to help people he should read and reply and respond to clarify. He has not. Only others like you have chimed in. He has a mind. Let him speak it.

As I said, I consider myself a weekend angler and not guide (pro). I want to share knowledge here with others and help them share with others as well. I will not be selfish and devise ways to thwart off fishing by others in this small world we live in. I want to help others and I will by stating my opinion. If you don't like it, that is your prerogative. Say it. But mind you, if you are rude to me I will be be as politely to the point with you in return.

We can debate these differences in opinions here with respect to others or we can be negative and make the conversation crumble like it has. It is up to you.

Have a nice day all you nice fishermen!

The first couple of posts dang sure didn't say this
If you find him wanting to keep his "honey holes" to himself as being selfish. you are in the minority by a long shot.
Part of the problem may be what you "read" into his post. He likley will not answer or be back for that matter.
As far as someone being rude..........................

Guys I'm sure if he was allowed to finish. He had plans to share with everyone, where he put these crappie beds. And open a lot of eyes to where to look for them. But he was not given the time. Now I'm sure no harm was meant on both sides. But I for one would love to hear the rests of his story.
And I agree most of the beds we put out for Bass years ago. And crappie were and still used these. Were where the bank beaters only would not find them in 20 years. I have found deeper stuff holds more fish then shallow anyway. Shoot of its in 30ft of water, shallow fish will use it the same as deep fish. As they will suspend over that structure and move up and down. But not move from that spot.
But on different waters fish will stay shallow all year long. Years back loaded the boat with slab crappie in Jan water was less then 4ft deep. Spinner bait for bass and slabs were eating it up. Stupid me never have went back to that spot and crappie fished it. But will next week.
Thats one 3 cents and I'm sticking to it.
Pete

Originally Posted by jusanothajoe

The first couple of posts dang sure didn't say this
If you find him wanting to keep his "honey holes" to himself as being selfish. you are in the minority by a long shot.
Part of the problem may be what you "read" into his post. He likley will not answer or be back for that matter.
As far as someone being rude..........................

I'm sorry, did he ask to be welcomed or did he suggest to us on how to hide our piles from weekend anglers? I must have missed something...

It's not selfish if it were his piles. Like I stated, he was suggesting to OTHERS on how guides set out heir piles to make sure others can't fish them. That came off to me as selfish in this community forum. Again, sorry if you can't or won't see it from others shoes.

We all have our opinions and it should be respected. I am not being rude if I am making a point that you don't understand. If you have ever had to fish from the bank maybe you would understand. I don't expect you to, but don't call me rude because I speak my mind. Debate me. Don't call me names.

As for him answering back, He is a grown man. That's his choice.

I am officially done from this thread. People want to keep it going. Go for it. I'll go somewhere else where it is more pleasant. See ya!

Originally Posted by kickingback

I'm sorry, did he ask to be welcomed or did he suggest to us on how to hide our piles from weekend anglers? I must have missed something...

I think you may have. Let the guy finish. I think you'll find he wasn't trying to teach you how to hide your spots, but instead think about where you might find spots that guys who spend everyday on the water put out and why they put them there.

I don't how familiar yall are with ky lake but it don't really need brush put in it to sustain the fishery. But it doesnt hurt surely. If the water gets right on it there is enough buck willas to hide every crappie and bass in the whole lake.

Originally Posted by Ron Kruger

I guided crappie fishermen on KY Lake for a decade. We all created our own hotspots. Here's some insights:
Not one guide I knew ever placed anything along the banks. All were more than a cast length from the bank, so the weekend anglers couldn't stumble upon them.
I have more to say, but after a few words, I have all kinds of trouble typing and I can't paste anything. Maybe an administrator can help me?

I also have some troube posting and can't past but I found a trick that corrects that. Once in the box where you are typing or pasting a post if you look up to the top left corner you will see a button that looks like a A/A which when moused over will say "switch editor". Click that and it corrects the problem. It must be a glitch that only effects certain computers.

I hope you post the rest of your thoughts because as someone that is fairly new to crappie fishing I can certainly benefit all the information I can get ahold of or that someone is nice enough to share. Personally I didn't take your post as anything other than trying to be helpful. Especially since it all sounded as it was in the past tense I took it as someone who used to guide and simply wanted to give some help to where maybe we might look to find some places to fish. I can't speak for anyone else but that is how I interpreted it.

It boils down to that if you add cover at all it beats NOTHING; I will be the very 1st to admit that NO, I at least DID NOT do all that work "out of the `goodness of my heart` anymore than a chicken farmers who raises chickens strictly because he happens to `like` chickens...there is a fillet knife in my plans somewhere.